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Hello! Today's The George Collective message will be a little different in that it's coming in the form of a Q&A. I try as much as possible to keep my own voice out of The Georges messages because this isn't about me except in the fact that I am amplifying and translating their vibration. So, I feel when I put myself in one of their messages, it's like a microphone started inserting its own commentary during a TED Talk.
But in this case, The Georges have suggested I ask them these questions in writing so others can see their answers.
Lately, there has been a lot going on in my life, much of it involving death. In less than a week's time, two people in my life died, and just a few weeks later, someone I care about attempted suicide. And then there's all of the death around the world that seems so senseless...the spike of COVID deaths in India to more than 4,000 per day, millions of excess mortalities year over year between 2019 and 2020 (and beyond), hundreds of people dying on the Gaza strip, as well as people dying from hunger, senseless acts of violence, oppression, depression, and disease.
Naturally, I have some questions. A few weeks ago, shortly after my brother-in-law and my uncle died, I was awakened at 3:33 AM by a soft, gentle, and peaceful voice that spoke aloud in my bedroom. It said, "There is no death." The voice was warm. It was loving. It was comforting. It was different from the voice I hear in my head when I channel The Georges; that voice sounds a lot like me, only smarter and wiser.
In that moment, I was overcome with peace. I put my hands on my chest and felt my heart beneath my palms, beating not just with my love, but with the love of those who no longer live in their bodies. I immediately had a knowing that their energy, their love, and their spirit rises on my every breath and expands with my every heartbeat.
That was a few weeks ago, and I have felt peace knowing that what I perceived as losses only felt like a loss because I had forgotten that bodies die, but love never does. I still grieve the loss of physical presence in my life because you can know with every fiber of your being that someone is with you always but still miss the feelings of their arms wrapped around you.
Observing what seems like so many senseless deaths and so many living people in such pain and fear, I still can't help but have questions. And so I have been asking them in the silence of my heart. I've asked them in my meditations and in my dreams. I've asked them as I drift off to sleep, as I wake in the morning, and as I go about my day. Because while I am--as you are--deeply connected to Source, I don't always remember that when I get lost in the drama of being human. And so I continue to ask questions because I long to understand.
The Georges have answered me and in those answers, I have found peace. However, many (perhaps most) people find death an uncomfortable topic. So until now, I've kept those questions and answers to myself. The Georges, however, tell me that as questions about death are the main and most pressing questions of all who are living, not just me, I should share our conversation with you in real time. This, then, is a conversation with The George Collective about death unfolding before your eyes.
BEGIN CHANNELED Q&A
Greetings! We are overjoyed at the opportunity to be here with you today. As always, we wish to remind you of our deep and abiding love for each of you. We unconditionally love each soul in a body as each of you is Us and We are each of you. While it is your experience that you are separated and distinct not just from each other, but from All That Is, we wish to remind you that such experience is merely illusion. It is an experience you have offered as a gift to the All That Is so that All That Is, Was, and Ever Will be can know Itself better through embodied experience in Duality. Each of you that perceives yourself as a soul in a body has entered this state willingly with the agreement that, for a while, you will enter into the adventure of forgetting Who You Are, which is All That Is.
We revel in your embodied adventure, admire your intrepid spirit, and rejoice as you begin to re-member yourself outside of the This and That. And, when you ultimately return Home, that is re-member with the All That Is, the entire universe shines with Joy at a piece of the All That Is returning Home. We know we have reminded you of this before, but it fits within our greater discussion of death, of which we understand you have many questions. Thus, we have invited Karen to ask us her questions in this way so we we can answer them for you.
I knew this was coming. But now I feel kind of put on the spot, as if I can't come up with any of the questions I've asked you so many times in the past few weeks. So I guess I'll just start with perhaps the most basic one; it's the question that set me on my path to You as I sought answers. What happens when we die?
It's true. This is the question Source receives more than any. It is a question you are "born" with, and it remains in the back of your minds throughout your life; it is never far from your thoughts. For a person in a body, death is the Great Unknown. And because it is unknown, it drives your fears, which often drive your choices.
What happens when you die? Quite simply, in that moment, should you choose to do so, you re-member. That is, you shed any of the filters of the small I, which is ego identification, and you re-member who you are. And the moment you do, you are overcome with the joy of re-membrance as you return to a Love and a Light greater than you can conceive while you exist in a human body.
Death isn't the end. It is merely a re-membering and a return. And in that moment of transition when you move from ego-identified and embodied to your true identity of All That Is, you are bursting with the joy at the Grace of a loved one returning Home.
Oh my gosh! I remember those words. I wrote them in a poem when I watched someone welcome death (I'll post the poem at the end of this channeling so you don't have to read it if you don't want to).
You have mentioned that you have been channeling us for years. Often your words are our words. We have been in partnership for many lifetimes.
Okay. Sorry about that. I got excited at the familiarity of the phrase. As you were answering and before the microphone interrupted the TED Talk, I was wondering if we all return Home and re-member when we die, then what of ghosts and earthbound spirits? What of spirits who wander in lower vibratory realms? If their bodies have died, then why aren't they immediately whooshed Home? Why do their spirits wander?
In your question you have already supplied part of the answer when you said "if their bodies have died." Their bodies have ceased to function, but the individual they identified with--which is the small I or the ego--has not yet died. For whatever reason, that spirit has remained ego-identified. They are unwilling to let go of the identity, and thus while they lack a body, they still remain in the Realm of This and That in order to have more experiences.
When the body has died and the ego and identity remain with the spirit., it is merely another experience. For that segment of Source Energy, being a "ghost" serves some kind of a purpose or is part of what that spirit needs to do in order to re-member. However, even "ghosts" and "wandering spirits," when they have eked all of the experiences they desire out of being a "ghost," will return Home. So being a "ghost" is merely another available experience that has value for some pieces of the All That Is. When they are ready, their return Home will be just as joyful and filled with Grace as any other piece of the All That Is.
Additionally, we would like you to know that it is also possible to "die" while still in a body. However, instead of calling this "death" and mourning it, you call it "Awakening", "Mastery," or "Enlightenment" and celebrate it! For spiritual seekers (and ultimately for all humans), this is what you aim for! Death is simply detachment from ego-identification and re-membering with Source energy, regardless of whether you leave your body to do it or decide to remain in a body for a while to see what that feels like.
Your question about spirits in lower vibratory realms has a similar answer. Some pieces of Source need to spend time experiencing themselves as "evil" or "darkness" or "chaos" so that they can then make the choice to no longer be those things and thus, re-member with Source as well. These parts of Source energy are different from embodied humans, however, in that it's highly unlikely they have been in human bodies. Rather, they've chosen to enter duality in other forms, and their experience is no less valuable than the process of becoming human; it's just a different path.
These entities are no more inherently evil than any energy in the All That Is, they have simply chosen a different experience of Duality. Their essence is Love, just as yours is. They are made of the same stardust as you. They simply adopt a lower vibrational form.
These entities co-exist within the same universe of Duality that humans do, and occasionally there is interaction between the two. However, because for the most part they have never been humans, and humans have never been these entities, there is a fundamental lack of understanding which generates fear. The lower vibrational energy from these entities feels deeply uncomfortable to humans because the energetic mismatch is so profound. The response is often fear.
It is important to understand, however, that while these entities feel heavy, dense, dark, and frightening to you, they are also a part of Source energy and as such, are no less loved and welcomed Home when they re-member than any human is.
However, it's also important to understand that some humans are attracted to these energies, and thus they invite them into their embodied lives. And when they do, their vibration begins to align with the density of these other pieces of Source energy, which can lead to what other embodied humans might perceive as acts of evil or even possession.
We understand that from your perspective, this feels frightening. However, we also urge you to understand that you have a choice as to whether you meld your energy with these entities and or even allow them into your life.
If you do briefly encounter someone or something with this dense energy, we suggest you recognize it as a piece of Source energy, send it loving light, and move on your way without giving it anymore attention, for the more attention you give it, the more likely you are to keep attracting it. Therefore, recognize it exists, send it Light, and step away with Love. That is all the engagement you need, and just that small amount of Light may be the very thing this entity needs to begin to re-member and start on its journey Home.
I'm not gonna lie - I wasn't expecting your answer to go there because I've always been a "demon denier." I've never wanted to place my attention on those entities because I don't want to step into that vibration, even for a moment. However, as you were discussing these lower vibrational energies, I couldn't help but think about infrasound, and how that vibrational energy can cause a host of fear-based icky reactions in humans. Is interacting with these entities like that?
It is an apt comparison. Vibrational mismatch can feel uncomfortable when you encounter a being of lower vibration or euphoric when you are the lower vibration being encountering one of higher vibration. Thus, your vibration generates a sense of euphoria that may attract these entities, which is why it's up to you to minimize the attention you give them.
Send Love. Send Light. Step away. Any other engagement could result in the lowering of your vibration, which you have worked for so many lifetimes to raise to where it is now. This is probably why you are a "demon denier." You've worked for thousands of lifetimes to reach your current vibration, and you have enough re-membrance of who you are to recognize you don't want to go back to a lower vibration.
It's perfectly acceptable to do so, and many souls do--in fact, you have before. But often it takes many more lifetimes to get back to where you started when you decided to engage, and for many souls who have done that once or twice, they recognize it as a "trap" when they encounter it again. These souls choose not to engage and instead continue on the path forward.
Wow. So many questions from that statement. I don't wander too far afield or make this too much about me, but curiosity compels. Thousands? And some version of me engaged with evil?
Actually more than thousands; Source energy has endless opportunities to re-enter experience, not just in all four Waves of Humanity, but in other realms as well. So yes. You've been doing this for what those of you existing in space time might call "a while."
And yes. Not "some version" of you engaged with evil. You. Because you are Source, and Source encompasses All That Is, Was, and Ever Will Be. So you have, indeed, engaged with evil. But we do understand your question to mean the packet of Source energy that currently presents as Karen and has also entered into other bodies and identified with other egos throughout lifetimes. And the answer is still yes. Every soul packet of energy has the sum total of every experience over lifetimes. You have, in other lives, chosen to identify as evil. That's what this is all about. Experience!
Why are we so frightened of death?
First we want to tell you that all of the mythos surrounding death is mostly incorrect. When humanity doesn't understand something, you create stories about it. These stories are often fear-based because embodied humans fear what lurks in the shadows, and death is the ultimate shadow.
Likewise, many institutions and individuals recognize this fear of the unknown and use it to their advantage. They use it to condition and control you so you will do what they want. Therefore, one of the most effective ways of removing the fear of anything, including death, is to stop believing what others tell you and spend time shining your own light on that which you fear. We guarantee that when you set aside cultural mythology, social conditioning, and controlling narratives coming from others and examine death in the light of Truth and Love, you will come to be, if not unafraid, less afraid of dying.
What do we need to understand when a loved one dies?
We suggest you try to understand the Love and joy that comes with a decision to re-member. Because that is what death is; it is detachment from the small I so you can return to where you came from, which is the All That Is, Was, and Ever Will Be. Death is a return to Love, and it is a choice that is lovingly made so that a soul can rejoin with Source, re-member that their true nature is Love, and begin planning for another set of experiences.
Therefore, the soul that dies experiences no pain or discomfort; they experience only joy, compassion, peace, and Love. As soon as they return Home, they are able to view the life they just lived as the adventure it was.
We can offer a comparison. Some embodied humans like horror movies. Others like roller coasters. They consider these things "fun" and "entertaining" even though part of what is fun about them is surviving the fear the experience invoked and then, when it's over, the euphoria at being safe. What an adventure! And thus, pieces of Source energy that embody as humans set out on an adventure. And for as long as they remain identified with the small I, the adventure continues until they decide it is time to re-member.
You just used the word "decide." Do we decide to die?
You do, but you may not realize you have made that decision. In your current embodiment, we remind you of when your grandmother was very ill and ready to return to Source. She made the decision to stop eating or drinking knowing it meant she would not remain in her body for much longer. And, when she left her body, she joyfully re-membered with Source. That is an example of someone consciously choosing to re-member.
In other cases, it may not be so clear cut. They may, on a soul level, realize they have eked out all of the experience they can from this ego and body, and thus their soul decides it is time to re-member and return Home.
Some also come with a plan to aid another's experience, and they therefore come to die "early" or "tragically" in order to help another beloved soul have the experience of profound grief. Souls have as many reasons for choosing to die as there are souls, and each one's journey is individual. But all are complicit in their own deaths in that they have, either consciously or at a soul level, determined that they no longer need to identify with the small I they currently inhabit.
Are you suggesting that dying young or tragically is no more horrendous than dying of old age and natural causes?
It depends on who you ask. To the re-membered soul, there is no catastrophe, there is only joy and re-membrance with Source. This is true regardless of age, experience, or cause of death. All are joyful events of rebirth into the unending beauty of Source energy.
Think of it this way: you like to read, and throughout your life you've read a lot of fiction. You read long novels and short stories; tragedies, myths, romances, fantasies, thrillers, fairy tales, hilarious romps, joyful poems, and virtually every literary experience you can have under the sun. Some take you a long time to read while others take a few minutes. You connect deeply to some stories, remain detached from others, enjoy many, and are annoyed by a few. But for all, you agree when you pick up a book to immerse yourself in the experience of the story you are reading. You agree to set aside your own "reality" and enter the world of the story. And when it ends, while you may feel sad if it was a tale you were particularly attached to, you put the book down and go on with your "reality." You seldom think a well-crafted story ended prematurely. You celebrate the joy the story brought you and move on with your life.
It may seem trite, but this is a good allegory for life and death. No life ends too soon. No life ends too tragically. Like the books you read, the lives have a beginning, middle, and end, and they progress through space-time on an adventure that leaves you having had, at least in your mind, experiences you wouldn't have had if you hadn't picked up the book.
And thus it is as a soul. You eagerly pick up a book you call a life. You agree to set aside what you know in order to dive in and have the full experience. And when the book is done, regardless of how long it took or what you experienced while you read it, as soon as the story is over you re-member your "real life" which in this case, is yourself as a perfect expression of All That Is, which is Love.
However, to the embodied soul experiencing the death of a loved one, there is often grief over the loss of that person's physical presence. And we recognize that grief is a beautiful but painful part of being identified with the small I. We urge you to allow yourself to feel the grief and process it fully, as this is also part of the experience you came to have.
We also wish to remind you this: that soul is never lost to you. You remain connected every moment of every day with every breath and every heartbeat. Your "lost soul" is not just near you, but within you. There is no separation between you and them. None. And when your story is over this time around and you re-member, whether it involves your own physical death or your Awakening, you will recognize this as truth. All that you thought you had "lost" has been there all along.
And what of suicide?
Regardless of the manner of death, our answer remains the same. Sometimes when you're reading a book, you find the experience so unpleasant that you stop reading it before the story ends. And sometimes, an embodied human experiences so much pain and disconnection in their experience of the small I, that they choose to detach from that ego-identification before their story is over. An embodied soul who is truly done will end their existence as that embodied soul, and there is nothing any other ego-identified being can do to stop them. Nor is it the fault or responsibility of anyone in a body that this soul arrived in such a place of pain as to end its experience.
We know this is hard to understand when you are in the ego experience. It likely feels dispassionate, particularly given your current experience with the attempted suicide of a loved one. We acknowledge your pain and confusion about this, and we wrap all of you in Love, peace, and compassion as you continue to process your feelings.
Your loved one has arrived in a place of great pain with their current ego-identification. And in that pain, your loved one tried to bring their life to an end. However, their continued presence in their body suggests that their soul is not yet ready to leave, so although the ego was ready to go, the soul was not in agreement. When a disconnection such as this occurs between the small I and the soul, it is the choices of the soul that always prevail. There is more in this incarnation for your loved one to experience before they rejoin with Source energy.
This does not mean that the path will be easy or suddenly miraculously better, because the truth is that your loved one remains in great pain. Due to how recently this occurred in linear time, part of everyone's processing including the one who attempted to die includes projecting into the future, which is generating even more pain and more fear as what lies ahead is the great unknown. And this projection into pain and fear blocks the Love, forgiveness, and compassion necessary for healing. As much as you can, we urge you all to remain in Presence, where you can deal with each energy as it arises. Remain in Love. Avoid recrimination or blame, for there is no blame here.
As much as you can, avoid the belief "this shouldn't have happened." This is a harmful belief that keeps everyone trapped in fear and pain, and it is judgmental and magical thinking. You can think it shouldn't have happened all you want, but the truth is that in your current reality, it did. And if it did happen, then there is no wishing or judging it away. So you must move forward.
Do so with Love, kindness, compassion, and understanding. Try to remain in Love and not fear. Call on guidance when you need it. And moment to moment, each person must make the choices that are the best for self; not for another. For you have no way of knowing what is "best" for anyone but yourself. Your well-meaning choices on behalf of another may not be what is best for them; only they and their soul know what that might be. Moment to moment, tune into you and make the highest choice that supports the greatest vision you can have for yourself as it relates to this situation. Trust others to do the same. This is the way forward.
And finally, we wish to remind you that which we said to you one morning as you woke at 3:33 AM and heard our voice in your room. There is no death. There is only Love. We Love you. We support you. We walk beside you. In your pain, we wrap you in the Love of All That Is. In Source, there is only Love, Light, and Oneness.
For all of you who fear death and mourn the loss of loved ones, know that while your small I may perceive loss, your True Self, which is Source energy, remains One with All That Is, Was, or Ever Will Be. You are safe, and you are loved.
END CHANNELED Q&A
From Karen: This is the poem I mentioned in the questions. I wrote it when someone I cared about was dying and doing so eagerly, much to the dismay of many who loved him.
Left behind we watch
As you drift away
Unable to comprehend
How you can smile
At a time like this
Your eyes are on the heavens
Ours are on the horizon
As we look forward and see
Emptiness in the space
You now occupy
Your consciousness expands outward
Into the universe
Our consciousness shifts inward
To probe a wound
Raw with your leaving
We wonder at your peace
In the presence of our pain
Unable to understand
Your smile of compassion
At our turmoil
Lost in our physical selves
We never take the time
To experience the process
And when we do
We wrap ourselves in grief
Instead of bursting with the Joy
At the Grace of a loved One
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